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#61 DyingTolerance

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 03:44 AM

View Postmine_26, on Oct 17 2009, 11:32 PM, said:

Not trying to be boastful or anything but since you brought it up, I took voice lessons, had to perform at a cafe and later on a mall show; I've been a choir member way back in the day and have handled a choir myself: the highschool choir and a youth group band/choir therefore had to point out certain ranges let alone notes for soprano, mezzo-soprano, alto, contralto, tenor, base, baritone; so I also know how do all the stuff you just mentioned.

I have nothing against using techniques but what we're trying to say is that's just an easier way to sing and most vocalists rely on them unlike Anthony Green 'cause he can do everything without any struggles at all without the aid of cheats. And as far as we know, AG was self-taught. Talent. Pure talent.
Not boastful at all, I've done a few shows, plays, etc, my self. I too can point out different ranges, obviously I haven't handled a choir myself, seeing as I'm still in high school, but I know what you're talking about. :)

Okay he can sing, and has talent, but he still ain't "The Best Vocalist". Just a really good vocalist :P

I like Meg because we can debate without acting like whiny bitches. *cough* Ryan! *cough*

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 05:25 AM

Alright honestly. We have to top the debate here. Its not going anywhere. I think everyone agrees theres no way he can possibly be the best. However, he is amazing. Your both right. DT is completely right in saying that hes great but not the best. Ryan is right in you have to understand certain things to gauge how good he really is. Can't we just leave it there :D

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 05:29 AM

View PostDyingTolerance, on Oct 17 2009, 08:44 PM, said:

Not boastful at all, I've done a few shows, plays, etc, my self. I too can point out different ranges, obviously I haven't handled a choir myself, seeing as I'm still in high school, but I know what you're talking about. :)

Okay he can sing, and has talent, but he still ain't "The Best Vocalist". Just a really good vocalist :D

I like Meg because we can debate without acting like whiny bitches. *cough* Ryan! *cough*

Hmmm I don't even know if choirs are relevant 'cause it's more on harmonious blendings. You don't really use your natural voice that much. Just head tones and a shit ton of falsettos. Although when I was assigned to handle and train a choir, I didn't teach them how to use their 'fake' voice. I made them belt the fuck out! They hated my vocal exercises at first but when the first mass came along, the chapel was filled with 20 people's voice only...with no mics. Some of them even got scared of how loud they sounded. It was pretty funny. Then my choir snowballed from there.

Anyways, say what you want but I'm still sticking with my supported stand :)

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 06:24 AM

View Postmine_26, on Oct 18 2009, 01:29 AM, said:

Hmmm I don't even know if choirs are relevant 'cause it's more on harmonious blendings. You don't really use your natural voice that much. Just head tones and a shit ton of falsettos. Although when I was assigned to handle and train a choir, I didn't teach them how to use their 'fake' voice. I made them belt the fuck out! They hated my vocal exercises at first but when the first mass came along, the chapel was filled with 20 people's voice only...with no mics. Some of them even got scared of how loud they sounded. It was pretty funny. Then my choir snowballed from there.

Anyways, say what you want but I'm still sticking with my supported stand :D

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Heh, my old choir teacher was like that. He had us watch videos of award winning choirs, etc, and he'd tell us everything they were doing wrong lol. And during the recital, we had mics, but we were too loud, the mics were too loud, and it was awesome.

You do that :)

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 12:20 PM

View PostDyingTolerance, on Oct 18 2009, 04:44 AM, said:

Not boastful at all, I've done a few shows, plays, etc, my self. I too can point out different ranges, obviously I haven't handled a choir myself, seeing as I'm still in high school, but I know what you're talking about. :ahem:
Yeah I'm boasting either, but you're talking to a former all-Ireland singing finalist ;)

Anthony Green is good, no ones denying that, but he's not stop-in-their-tracks-to-listen good.

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 01:28 PM

Yeah, he is good. I won't deny that, but I can sit here and post Opera and Classical singers all day long that blow Anthony Green out of the water. Actually I already did.

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 02:19 PM

andre boccelli is utterly magnificent, i listen to him often

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 05:15 PM

The blind guy? I love him!

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 05:40 PM

View PostSunshine the Warewolf, on Oct 18 2009, 03:28 PM, said:

Actually I already did.
I did before you did. :k:

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 07:03 PM

View PostSunshine the Warewolf, on Oct 18 2009, 06:28 AM, said:

Yeah, he is good. I won't deny that, but I can sit here and post Opera and Classical singers all day long that blow Anthony Green out of the water. Actually I already did.

Opera singers and rock singers are two different to really compare. Perhaps I was unclear with my own intention behind my posting... I'm not suggesting Anthony Green is the worlds greatest vocalist, I'm merely suggesting that he's 'rock music's greatest vocalist' and to further expand upon this, he is the best we know of... so perhaps there are better singers out there but as far as I can tell Anthony has this area of music very well covered.

Anthony is after all self taught. Imagine for a minute just what would happen if he under went world class classical training... I'm sure most of you realize the possibilities would be seemingly endless. What it all comes down to is that he is able to literally do the impossible; hit extremely difficult notes without having to rely on any sort of vocal technique, much impart to the over whelming strenght and depth of his natural voice. An ability such as this is extremely rare to say the very least.

I also think many of you seem to take his screaming abilities very lightly as well. I've been a vocalist for the better part of 8 years and although I may not be very experienced in the field of singing I'm very experienced when it comes to screaming. Just because you can sing doesn't mean you'll be able to scream or vice-versa... Jonny Craig for example: great singer, not so great screamer. Jacob Bannon: amazing screamer, very weak singer. I myself am able to sing and scream however, although I'm able to control my screams very well as far as pitch is concerned, adding any sort of melody or variation to them is extremely difficult and this is something which Anthony (along with a very, very select few others) can do seemingly effortlessly.

Keep in mind that when you scream correctly projection is heightened by up to 50 percent over the height of projection reached through your singing voice. Lung strenght and lung capacity are key, just the same as ones ability to control. As most of you know, power and control are in constant conflict and most of the time you are forced to let one give way to the other... the harder you push the more power forces control to waver. The more you limit the more control...etc Anthony is able to ignore this almost completely through his screaming. In short, melodic screaming is very, VERY difficult and should never be taken lightly. It's hard enough to maintain a decent amount of pernounciation and clarity while screaming, adding melody into the mix takes it to the next level entirely... and believe me, I would know! :tongue:

So to be fair to Anthony you have to look at him as a complete package. Meaning: you can't just look at one of his bands, nor can you just look at his singing abilities without even consiering his screaming abilities... when you weigh everything at the same time it's absolutely astounding. Literally no one else is as accomplished in both screaming and singing as Anthony Green has proven himself to be. Sure there may be a few individuals who may be better than him in one of those areas but CERTAINLY not in both, and that is why I hold the man is such high reguard.

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 07:12 PM

View PostRyan, on Oct 18 2009, 03:03 PM, said:

Opera singers and rock singers are two different to really compare. Perhaps I was unclear with my own intention behind my posting... I'm not suggesting Anthony Green is the worlds greatest vocalist, I'm merely suggesting that he's 'rock music's greatest vocalist' and to further expand upon this, he is the best we know of... so perhaps there are better singers out there but as far as I can tell Anthony has this area of music very well covered.
You're definitely over doing it. Hardly anybody knows who he is, and have you got any fucking idea how many different sub genres that covers? He's a good vocalist, definitely not "Rock Music's Greatest Vocalist". I don't care how good he is, no vocalist can cover every sub genre of rock well enough to be called "Rock Music's Greatest Vocalist". And he's the best you know of, we all know you lack musical diversity, so don't even start that bullshit about "the best we know of"

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 07:54 PM

View PostDyingTolerance, on Oct 18 2009, 12:12 PM, said:

You're definitely over doing it. Hardly anybody knows who he is, and have you got any fucking idea how many different sub genres that covers? He's a good vocalist, definitely not "Rock Music's Greatest Vocalist". I don't care how good he is, no vocalist can cover every sub genre of rock well enough to be called "Rock Music's Greatest Vocalist". And he's the best you know of, we all know you lack musical diversity, so don't even start that bullshit about "the best we know of"

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You speak as if you know me which makes me laugh a bit. Who are you to say I lack musical diversity, you don't know what I listen to aside from the few bands I post about. Not to mention, who's to say I haven't heard whatever happens to be on the tip of your tongue right at this moment? It's not your place to make blind assumptions on someone who you have never, and probably will never meet in real life. Myself aside, Anthony Green is probably a text book example of diversity, as he himself has very little left that he HASN'T done in music. Experimental, post hardcore, alternative, rock, acoustic/folk, metalcore, hardcore, even a few songs which could be consided post emo and I'm sure I'm leaving a few genres out of the mix... he's done everything there and then some. Nothing impresses you apparently.

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 09:33 PM

View PostRyan, on Oct 18 2009, 02:54 PM, said:

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You speak as if you know me which makes me laugh a bit. Who are you to say I lack musical diversity, you don't know what I listen to aside from the few bands I post about. Not to mention, who's to say I haven't heard whatever happens to be on the tip of your tongue right at this moment? It's not your place to make blind assumptions on someone who you have never, and probably will never meet in real life. Myself aside, Anthony Green is probably a text book example of diversity, as he himself has very little left that he HASN'T done in music. Experimental, post hardcore, alternative, rock, acoustic/folk, metalcore, hardcore, even a few songs which could be consided post emo and I'm sure I'm leaving a few genres out of the mix... he's done everything there and then some. Nothing impresses you apparently.
Okay, so based on the few bands you post about, you lack musical diversity. You post about the same types of bands, so how have you shown anyone on this forum that you don't lack musical diversity? I don't have to have met you to know you lack musical diversity, now that, is irrelevant.
You think Anthony Green is a text book example of diversity. You think he has done all these sub genres of Rock and shit, but in reality, he's probably only done a handful. Who are you to define and classify all these genres? You think you know everything about which bands are emo, post-emo, blah blah blah. There are probably people that know way more than you do about sub-genres, and musical diversity. The point is, Anthony Green is a good vocalist, but certainly is not worthy of being called a text book of diversity. Not from you anyways.

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Posted 19 October 2009 - 02:05 AM

View PostDyingTolerance, on Oct 18 2009, 02:33 PM, said:

Okay, so based on the few bands you post about, you lack musical diversity. You post about the same types of bands, so how have you shown anyone on this forum that you don't lack musical diversity? I don't have to have met you to know you lack musical diversity, now that, is irrelevant.
You think Anthony Green is a text book example of diversity. You think he has done all these sub genres of Rock and shit, but in reality, he's probably only done a handful. Who are you to define and classify all these genres? You think you know everything about which bands are emo, post-emo, blah blah blah. There are probably people that know way more than you do about sub-genres, and musical diversity. The point is, Anthony Green is a good vocalist, but certainly is not worthy of being called a text book of diversity. Not from you anyways.

No offense but are you a truly dense person? You act as if it's hard to classify things into genres when it really, really, IS NOT. There are plenty of people out there who know more than I do, however, as far as the basics go (what band is such and such genre...etc) I more than have that covered.

At this point you're just making excuses for yourself because you seem more intent on trying to attack me rather than anything I'm saying. 'Oh, you lack musical diversity therefore who are you to say what is or isn't diverse.' Have you ever even thought to consider that I've listened to an extremely wide range of genres/bands/artists and found what it is I actually liked and stuck with it? Just because I'm not a fan of something doesn't mean I'm unaware of it.

Hey DT: Fuck You :thumbdown:

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Posted 19 October 2009 - 02:16 AM

View PostRyan, on Oct 18 2009, 10:05 PM, said:

Hey DT: Fuck You :thumbdown:
Anytime ;)

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Posted 19 October 2009 - 05:54 AM

I have no problem with Ryan's mancrush/hero-worship of Anthony Green, but stickying this thread was a little over-the-top

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 03:10 AM

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LOL. Anthony Green is amazing





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