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post Nov 7 2009, 02:24 PM
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I promise, this is mostly for catharsis; I'm aware that this is the interweb and I can't/shouldn't be counting on anyone for any real, actual advice. I just feel that I don't bitch enough, and I figure I'd give anyone who wants to know me better or needs some new drama to eat up a chance of my own. That being said, <bitchwhinerantangst>

Where to start, really? As a base-line, I've been single most of my life; only one girl I was serious about, and a few others through highschool; I'm a shy person most of the time, and when I'm not, I become too social, to the point where untouchable, more of a thing to woo at than a real person. That much, is part of who I am, and I don't mind, it just provides the setting for this hunger.
Currently, I have two big issues, but there are countless little ones too, and I'm not even sure I should be so depressed(mind you, I for some reason enjoy depression, and I don't mean in the "oh, look, I'm cutting myself" way, I just have a hero complex where the more hopeless something is, the more persistant I am to hold on to hope).

I guess I'll go backwards, and address just these last few days first; There is a girl(lets call her "Chao") that I've been fairly good friends with for a while. She tends to come to me now and then with problems as most schoolgirls do, and she is a huge fangirl(of myself). A year back, I started having feelings for her, but not really enough to act on, and a friend of hers asked her out. I didn't really care, it didn't bother me because I'm used to things like that; it takes more than typical highschool drama bullshit to get to me, and by all means I was happy for her anyway, she does deserve a break from assholes. Jump ahead a year, that guy was yet another asshole, and she came to me about him, so naturally, some of those feelings resurfaced. Well, I come to find out, she has(and apparently has had for a while, off and on) feelings for one of my best friends. I could go on forever about my friend here, long story short though he's been labeled as a stalker because he's been mindlessly enamored with the same girl(actually, the first girl I myself ever dated, let's call her "milk"), since middle school up until today, though him and Milk have both sorta come to an acceptance of it all. Now, I don't really have an issue with this, I spent almost all last night trying to give Chao advice, being that this guy is my best friend; he REALLY needs a decent girl, too, and I don't care about myself here, this really is actually a really good thing in my eyes. The issue here, is that she was probably the closest I was to a girl, so while I plan to do anything I can to help her date my buddy, that does set me back quite a bit.

Then, comes the second issue, of the two major ones I feel I need to vomit all over this forum. Another one of my friends has girl issues of his own; he dated one girl the whole four years of highschool, only to get dumped a week into college(she was a raving cunt anyway, and he can see that now), so he moved back here and stole one of my other friends woman(names wouldn't even help here, they're both named Mike). Well, now(they've been dating for over a year by this point) another girl has been talking to him. A little insight here, this man is made of two things; Impulse, and Conflict. And he's absolutely retarded. So, as you can only imagine, this new girl has been leading him on, getting between the two, toying with him, and he loves it, but he can't bring himself to actually break up with the girl he's with. This is all my problem to deal with anyway; I am his financial and emotional adviser and counselor. The problem I'm having here, is that between dating one Mike and another, I've started to develop feelings for his current girlfriend(this one, we call Webby). She's a pretty cool person, though she is an absolute brick wall emotionally; she doesn't let anything in or out unless you sneak past her defense, and though she seems like a huge fangirl too, get to know her on some deeper level and you know without her even saying, that she's a much more depressed person than she lets show. Again, it's in my better nature to do everything I can to keep Mike and Webby together, but for Mike and my own sake, I can only hope he'll choose to leave Webby for this new girl(who shall remain nameless), so I have even some opening, as I'm fairly certain me and her share a good deal of interests, and by all means I'm much less of an ass as the guy she's with now(I love my friend to death, but he is RETARDED to no end; though far from the worst I've seen in guys.).

To tie this all up, because I don't feel the need to get into any stupid little issues, the thing that's getting me down the most I guess, is how sick I am of helping everyone around me to be happy, and having nothing myself. Most people who know my personally tell me I should be a therapist, but I don't think I could deal with the strain I'd be putting on myself; I really enjoy helping those around me, and it is in my nature regardless of how I feel about it, but I really don't have anyone to turn to myself, so I'm pretty much too busy with other people's issues to even have time for my own.
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post Nov 7 2009, 02:43 PM
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/rereading and paying attention this time. Maybe I'll comment later or never. I suck at that department, dude.
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post Nov 7 2009, 02:49 PM
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Ehh, all good, all good. I prefer cats over squirrles, myself; but at least do it right, that was a gold card, not a black one, though points for the old border.


EDIT: actually, I think I'll take this moment to sum up what I said, for anyone too lazy to read it all (bums).
I liked this one girl. She's pretty cool. She likes my friend. I'm ok with that, I'd love to see them get together, but she's the closest I am to a girl.
Other girl is dating a different friend of mine. He is impulsive and loves conflict, and has been talking to another girl, and cant choose between them. This girl is double pretty cool, but doesn't connect emotionally very well, and the only way I'd have a chance with her is if my retarded friend crushes her first.
Woo.
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post Nov 7 2009, 03:09 PM
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FUCK, WHY SQUILLELS!? IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BLACK MANA SYMBOL!

Lead him on or something, that's what mono black would do. But I really have no idea what to tell you. If I'm Bobby, I'll probably just curse the stars since there'd be an invisible thing blocking me from influencing the dude from choosing the other.

Well, but I'm pretty sure on what not to do: Court the other before his crunchtime resolves. That'd probably end up in some "MINE MIIINES NO U" situation.
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post Nov 7 2009, 03:19 PM
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I've always been a green sorta guy myself; but I do agree, I've been trying to avoid doing that for a while, because I know that's EXACTLY how he'd react (while we're still dealing in Magic metaphors, think of him as a Goblin deck).

And low blow with the stars bit; she'd be better off with me anyway, she's a Capricorn and he's a Sagittarius; horrible combo really; being with a pisces such as myself would allow her to be much more creatively fufilled. So mleh!
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post Nov 7 2009, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE (Bobbilytus Choppenstantz @ Nov 7 2009, 03:24 PM) *
As a base-line, I've been single most of my life;
Me too. It's kinda depressing, isn't it?

QUOTE (Bobbilytus Choppenstantz @ Nov 7 2009, 03:24 PM) *
I'm not even sure I should be so depressed(mind you, I for some reason enjoy depression, and I don't mean in the "oh, look, I'm cutting myself" way, I just have a hero complex where the more hopeless something is, the more persistant I am to hold on to hope).
You realize that's not a real clinical depression, right?


So you like two girls at the moment?



PS: Green/Blue here. And no, I don't actually play Magic.
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post Nov 7 2009, 05:23 PM
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Lady says I'm Izzet, but boros seems to resonate.
QUOTE (Bobbilytus Choppenstantz @ Nov 7 2009, 11:19 PM) *
I've always been a green sorta guy myself; but I do agree, I've been trying to avoid doing that for a while, because I know that's EXACTLY how he'd react (while we're still dealing in Magic metaphors, think of him as a Goblin deck).

And low blow with the stars bit; she'd be better off with me anyway, she's a Capricorn and he's a Sagittarius; horrible combo really; being with a pisces such as myself would allow her to be much more creatively fufilled. So mleh!

I've been thinking... you can be easily identified as among the Golgari.

Anyway, Goblins are easy. Just wear them out til they run out of gas. You're G/B, you're probably an embodiment of endurance itself. Control decks usually win against Aggros. Is "waiting" seem like a sound advice?
QUOTE (Lady @ Nov 8 2009, 01:00 AM) *
Me too. It's kinda depressing, isn't it?

IIT: We feel bad about ourselves.

D:

And yes, I love Magic theory and DnD alignments. It's kinda like star signs and whatnot to me.
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post Nov 7 2009, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE (Bobbilytus Choppenstantz @ Nov 7 2009, 09:49 AM) *
Ehh, all good, all good. I prefer cats over squirrles, myself; but at least do it right, that was a gold card, not a black one, though points for the old border.


EDIT: actually, I think I'll take this moment to sum up what I said, for anyone too lazy to read it all (bums).
I liked this one girl. She's pretty cool. She likes my friend. I'm ok with that, I'd love to see them get together, but she's the closest I am to a girl.
Other girl is dating a different friend of mine. He is impulsive and loves conflict, and has been talking to another girl, and cant choose between them. This girl is double pretty cool, but doesn't connect emotionally very well, and the only way I'd have a chance with her is if my retarded friend crushes her first.
Woo.

Why the penis couldn't you just say that?
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post Nov 7 2009, 09:26 PM
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Wow, Bobbylitus really loves tea.
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post Nov 7 2009, 11:21 PM
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i spent about 15 minutes reading that... distraction from Tv dont help ¬_¬

quick question: do Mike and Webby have much in common and is their relationship a good one? Would Webby be better off without him seeing as you say he's retared and she's an emotional brick wall. Perhaps you're right, he would be better with this other girl (and im sorry but if he's in a relationship and he's even concidering breaking up with her for another girl he deserves a punch in the face). By the sounds of it you understand peopel very well and get what they need to be happy so you seem to be a very good match for Webby.
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post Nov 8 2009, 03:47 AM
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Dont go after your retarded friends girlfriend anytime soon...
Why?
A) She'll be crushed and distraught and it wont be pretty
B) It's a dickish move on your part and your retarded friend will be mad at you.

as for the first situation....

So Mike likes Milk
and Chao likes Mike ...?

If so wait for Chao to lose interest in Mike and pursue her if you REALLY REALLY want a companion.
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post Nov 8 2009, 05:16 PM
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Got quite a bit to work with here; not sure where I mentioned Tea at all, but why yes, I do enjoy it.

QUOTE (Lady @ Nov 7 2009, 12:00 PM) *
Me too. It's kinda depressing, isn't it?

You realize that's not a real clinical depression, right?

So you like two girls at the moment?

PS: Green/Blue here. And no, I don't actually play Magic.

I don't believe in Depression on a Clinical level, I've done far too much research on psychiatry to believe in all that crap, it's all just social constructs we invent because we're too lazy to properly raise children; too much stimulation and sensitivity in an overly processed, sugar-coated, sedentary life.
But yes, I do like two girls, which is what makes it all the more frustrating; two front wars are killer. I'd rather be Russia than Germany any day.
And really, Green/Blue? Always an interesting combo, and in my experiance, hard to make work effectively, but with a lot of potential. Strangely enough, I can see it... My buddy Brian, the one that Chao likes, is definitely Blue/Green, but of a completely different nature; somehow, he can fit in with Red/White really well too, but he knows he isn't those.

QUOTE (Enemy @ Nov 7 2009, 12:23 PM) *
Lady says I'm Izzet, but boros seems to resonate.

I've been thinking... you can be easily identified as among the Golgari.

Anyway, Goblins are easy. Just wear them out til they run out of gas. You're G/B, you're probably an embodiment of endurance itself. Control decks usually win against Aggros. Is "waiting" seem like a sound advice?

IIT: We feel bad about ourselves.

D:

And yes, I love Magic theory and DnD alignments. It's kinda like star signs and whatnot to me.

I love Magic Theory too, I often use it to explain more than it probably should; I don't think I ussually fit into Green/Black though, more of a Green/White guy I think, but maybe I should trust a third party on this one; you are right though endurance and patience are my middle names(cause I always gotta have two). I could definitely see you as Boros, but you've definitely got some Blue in there somewhere; though you seem to have more Government-level control Blue than mind-game illusion Blue(I much prefer the illusionary sort, but to each their own).

QUOTE (Darkness @ Nov 7 2009, 10:47 PM) *
Dont go after your retarded friends girlfriend anytime soon...
Why?
A) She'll be crushed and distraught and it wont be pretty
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) It's a dickish move on your part and your retarded friend will be mad at you.

as for the first situation....

So Mike likes Milk
and Chao likes Mike ...?

If so wait for Chao to lose interest in Mike and pursue her if you REALLY REALLY want a companion.

I think I need to clairify a bit...
Brian is the one that likes Milk, who Chao likes; and apparently, he turned her down the other night, but I know the two of them and I can probably help her win him over. He just needs to get out of his whiney little stalker-bitch hole. Right now, she's pretty depressed because she absolutely HATES rejection, but I told her I'd help her out, at this point I'd rather him date her than me.

As for the Mikes, maybe this might be a good time for some back-story; Webby first dated my buddy Mike(whom we call mike). After the other Mike(whom we call Bujak, it's his last name) got broken up with at college, he moved back home here, and stole Webby from the other Mike, mostly because niether of them know how to treat a woman, but Bujak knows how to fake it like crazy.
I know I can't try and do what Bujak did to Mike, because people are still butt-hurt over it, and I tend to enjoy being the neutral third party.
The strange thing is, Bujak in all his impulse, has thought I was going after Webby before(at this point, I wasn't), got pissy, and then told me like a week later he wished I had because it would make his life easier and he knows she'd be in good hands. I know him well enough not to trust that entirely, but I do believe he'd understand IF he were to dump her, and I made a move.

I don't plan to do ANYTHING as far as Webby is concerned, if he decides to stay with her, but I know him, as long as there is another woman in play, his moral compass is spinning in circles.
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