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[At the worlds end]

Does anyone listen to Japanese music? I find alot of it can be described as emo.
I know it hard to explain but people think emo music can
be only some specific genre,and its kind of limiting your horizons.
Onna no Kokoro by Natsumi Abe

[xXAydonXx]

At the worlds end, on Dec 19 2007, 03:25 AM, said:

Does anyone listen to Japanese music? I find alot of it can be described as emo.
I know it hard to explain but people think emo music can
be only some specific genre,and its kind of limiting your horizons.
Onna no Kokoro by Natsumi Abe

Before you get your head ripped-off, which, most likely you will. J-Rock and J-Pop have a lot in common. Many songs, if you listen to them and understand the language, are far from 'emo.' True they hold some values in terms of technical stylings to emo, but they are not actually emo songs.

J-Rock in it's self is in it's own category because itself is it's own genre, of course it may have some emo/ hardcore background but still it is not enough to proclaim it as such.

I do listen to J-Rock though. By far they have better concerts then anything anywhere else in the world. In my opinion.

[JanneK]

Does 'Onna no Kokoro' mean something along the lines of "Heart of women", "The womans heart" or am I completely off on this?

[xXAydonXx]

JanneK, on Dec 19 2007, 09:29 AM, said:

Does 'Onna no Kokoro' mean something along the lines of "Heart of women", "The womans heart" or am I completely off on this?

Onna no Kokoro actually translates "Too Far Away."



I believe its Abe Natsumi's 9th single? Maybe 8th I forgot.

[JanneK]

xXAydonXx, on Dec 19 2007, 06:39 PM, said:

Onna no Kokoro actually translates "Too Far Away."
I believe its Abe Natsumi's 9th single? Maybe 8th I forgot.

Hah, would you look at that.

I thought "onna" meant woman and "kokoro" heart. Don't know why, though.

[xXAydonXx]

JanneK, on Dec 19 2007, 09:41 AM, said:

Hah, would you look at that.

I thought "onna" meant woman and "kokoro" heart. Don't know why, though.

Literally, it does; but to translate japanese text into english - you get different results.

To english speakers - literal translation does mean Heart of Woman, but to a Japanese native speaker it would be equal to "Too far Away"

I.E the term "Lost in translation."

So you are right...just wrong context =]

[JanneK]

Awesome, thanks for clearing that up.

Do you, by any chance, speak Japanese? I´m thinking about taking 'a few' classes since I´m interested in moving to either Japan, Australia or London in a few years.

[Lady]

I heard about Yoshiki (drummer of X Japan) because he was working with Roger Taylor (drummer of Queen) and I was curious. So I only know some of X Japans songs. I don't particularly like the voice of the singer though. I am watching Yoshikis blog on MySpace, it's so cute.
I never took the time to go deeper into J-Rock.

JanneK, on Dec 19 2007, 06:54 PM, said:

Do you, by any chance, speak Japanese? I´m thinking about taking 'a few' classes since I´m interested in moving to either Japan, Australia or London in a few years.

I took one courseat university. More out of coincidence.
It's both easy and very difficult. Basic grammar isn't too difficult and they take over many words from the English language. But...counting is a pain in the ass. Also reading is hard, since they use all three "writing systems" (I only learned Katakana in that short time).
Nevertheless, it was very interesting.

[JanneK]

Lady, on Dec 19 2007, 08:49 PM, said:

I took one courseat university. More out of coincidence.
It's both easy and very difficult. Basic grammar isn't too difficult and they take over many words from the English language. But...counting is a pain in the ass. Also reading is hard, since they use all three "writing systems" (I only learned Katakana in that short time).
Nevertheless, it was very interesting.

Cool! How much would you say you learned during that course? Do you think you can hold a basic conversation in japanese? If I decide to move to Japan it would be good to at least know the basics.

[Lady]

No, I couldn't, not now. I suck at all languages except English, I forget them in no time.
Immediatly after the course, I think I could have talked a bit; enough for introduction, say what I do, ask for direction to the shinkansen, stuff like that. I could write a bit in Katakana.

[JanneK]

Lady, on Dec 19 2007, 09:19 PM, said:

I forget them in no time.

Tch. I know what that's like. I had to take Spanish A and B (2 years) and it didn't take me more than a few months to forget most of the things I learned, after I was done with the courses.

[Ryan]

At the worlds end, on Dec 19 2007, 03:25 AM, said:

Does anyone listen to Japanese music? I find alot of it can be described as emo.
I know it hard to explain but people think emo music can
be only some specific genre,and its kind of limiting your horizons.
Onna no Kokoro by Natsumi Abe

you wouldn't know what emo was even if it bit you in the fucking ass... you're lucky i'm exhausted from being up all fucking night making Lion Of The North cds (amazing band kids, cds are $5ppd, i'll make a topic about it in the screamo section when i'm finished with them) otherwise i'd pwnt your dumb ass real good.

[xXAydonXx]

Yes Jannek, I speak Japanese, Cantonese, Mandarin and Korean fluently =]

Japanese is the easiest asian language to learn, with Korean in close second. But if you're a first time learner you'll have a problem with reading Hiragana and Kanji and most likely Katagana as well.

Learning 2.5k+ characters of kanji is a challenge though lol

I do encourage you to learn Japanese it is easy, fun and very rewarding. If you need any help translating or anything, feel free to msg me. =]

[JanneK]

xXAydonXx, on Dec 20 2007, 03:02 AM, said:

I do encourage you to learn Japanese it is easy, fun and very rewarding. If you need any help translating or anything, feel free to msg me. =]

Thank you. I´ll try to find something on the net where I can learn some of the basics, work on them and later on decide if I´ll take some classes or something. It's good to hear that Japanese isn't all that hard, even though there are some hard bits, like the countless characters of kanji.

Wow, 4 languages? That's pretty impressive. I´m only fluent in three languages; Finnish, Swedish and English.

[Lady]

JanneK, on Dec 20 2007, 01:17 PM, said:

Wow, 4 languages? That's pretty impressive. I´m only fluent in three languages; Finnish, Swedish and English.

Haha. You know, most people are only fluent in their native language.

[JanneK]

Lady, on Dec 20 2007, 03:39 PM, said:

Haha. You know, most people are only fluent in their native language.

Meh. Most everyone here in Sweden are fluent in 2 languages, so I guess I don't really see it as a big deal if you're fluent in 2-3 languages. But when you cross that line and enter 4, 5 and sometimes even 6 languages - that's impressive.

[xXLoveHateSorrowXx]

jrock kicks ass
Dir en Grey, Sadie, and Girugamesh are difinately the top three
dir en grey is probably, lyrics wise, the emo-est, tough

[Sixshot]

I'm into Jrock as well. I'm not a big fan of Jpop, but some of it is okay too.
My fave Jrock bands are Dir en Grey, Malice Mizer, Moi Dix Mois, MUCC and Baroque. And my fave Jrock artists are hide and Miyavi.

[Lady]

Girugamesh? Isn't it Gilgamesh? (l = r and they often put a "quiet" u behind consonants)

[JanneK]

Yes, it's actually Gilgamesh.

Isn't Gil an ancient Mesopotamian king? I think I've read some tales where he was portrayed as a demi-God.