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Tampon's Photo Tampon 25 Jun 2009

Where I am from, there are just as many 'scene kids' or 'emos', or whatever you like to refer to yourself by, as there are 'chavs' or 'mauds' or what have you. I do hate scene kids, but only certain kinds. It's nothing to do with the way they dress, or their atrocious taste in music. If you think that wearing jeans that are 3 sizes too small for you is cool (It reduces sperm count, you know), then by all means do it, who am I to judge you? What I can't stand is the attitude that seems rampant in this subculture.

First of all, the victim thing. Far too many scene kids feel the need to have something to be depressed about. They feel as if they must 'hate their life' or come from a broken home, they wear their life problems, whether fictional or real, like some kind of status symbol. Often these kids (who are soooo depressed) are the perfect example of middle class kids who's parents 'don't understand them'. What they don’t understand is that people who have had and are dealing with real problems don’t just tell anyone. They don’t act depressed. If you are really having it hard, you will always try and keep up the appearance that you are fine. If you self-harm, you won’t wear short sleeved t-shirts and show off your scars, you will try your best to hide them. You will have excuses prepared to explain them away. You certainly will not openly go on about how depressed you are.

I’ll give you an example here, I went out drinking with my form class when I finished school last year. There are a lot of people in our form class who consider themselves emo. One girl in particular spent the entire night talking about how depressed she was, how hard her life was, how she self-harmed. When I questioned her (as I was genuinely concerned, SILLY ME) about why she was so down, she gave me shit like ‘my parents don’t get me’ and ‘they grounded me for staying out late’. These are not problems. It’s so cliché but.. The starving kids in Africa? They have problems. Your only problem is an attention seeking one.

My second big problem with these scene kids is how they claim that they are original.. This is a source of great amusement for me, because I can’t tell them apart. Listening to the exact same bands as your friend and wearing the exact same clothes as your friend does not make you original. Someone who has true originality cannot be stereotyped. I think that a member of the emo culture might find themselves liking something like rap or jazz or country and western, but they‘d never mention it or even deny it because it doesn’t fit in with their image...That’s not originality. You may not be conforming to conventional style of dress, music etc.. But you are still conforming to an image. I think that you are all bopping about to Beyoncé when nobody is looking, anyway.

Basically, I don’t care how you dress or what music you listen to. I dislike the fact you have to feel so sorry for yourself, and expect me to do the same, when your problems are actually quite trivial. And please, please for the love of god don’t for a second think that you are original. You really aren’t.

RANT OVER.
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Mayim's Photo Mayim 25 Jun 2009

 Tampon, on Jun 25 2009, 03:22 AM, said:

Where I am from, there are just as many 'scene kids' or 'emos', or whatever you like to refer to yourself by, as there are 'chavs' or 'mauds' or what have you. I do hate scene kids, but only certain kinds. It's nothing to do with the way they dress, or their atrocious taste in music. If you think that wearing jeans that are 3 sizes too small for you is cool (It reduces sperm count, you know), then by all means do it, who am I to judge you? What I can't stand is the attitude that seems rampant in this subculture.

First of all, the victim thing. Far too many scene kids feel the need to have something to be depressed about. They feel as if they must 'hate their life' or come from a broken home, they wear their life problems, whether fictional or real, like some kind of status symbol. Often these kids (who are soooo depressed) are the perfect example of middle class kids who's parents 'don't understand them'. What they don’t understand is that people who have had and are dealing with real problems don’t just tell anyone. They don’t act depressed. If you are really having it hard, you will always try and keep up the appearance that you are fine. If you self-harm, you won’t wear short sleeved t-shirts and show off your scars, you will try your best to hide them. You will have excuses prepared to explain them away. You certainly will not openly go on about how depressed you are.

I’ll give you an example here, I went out drinking with my form class when I finished school last year. There are a lot of people in our form class who consider themselves emo. One girl in particular spent the entire night talking about how depressed she was, how hard her life was, how she self-harmed. When I questioned her (as I was genuinely concerned, SILLY ME) about why she was so down, she gave me shit like ‘my parents don’t get me’ and ‘they grounded me for staying out late’. These are not problems. It’s so cliché but.. The starving kids in Africa? They have problems. Your only problem is an attention seeking one.

My second big problem with these scene kids is how they claim that they are original.. This is a source of great amusement for me, because I can’t tell them apart. Listening to the exact same bands as your friend and wearing the exact same clothes as your friend does not make you original. Someone who has true originality cannot be stereotyped. I think that a member of the emo culture might find themselves liking something like rap or jazz or country and western, but they‘d never mention it or even deny it because it doesn’t fit in with their image...That’s not originality. You may not be conforming to conventional style of dress, music etc.. But you are still conforming to an image. I think that you are all bopping about to Beyoncé when nobody is looking, anyway.

Basically, I don’t care how you dress or what music you listen to. I dislike the fact you have to feel so sorry for yourself, and expect me to do the same, when your problems are actually quite trivial. And please, please for the love of god don’t for a second think that you are original. You really aren’t.

RANT OVER.

Agreed....mostly.
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rippa's Photo rippa 25 Jun 2009

Second paragraph is awesome. It's my views, expressed in perfect words.
Two things though.
Scene kids, yes. The whole forum revolves around the fact (ok, not really) that Emo is music (the REAL Emo, not the mislabelled Post Hardcore stuff), and people are Scene.
Most of the regulars are NOT the scene kids you speak of. I got the vibe that you seemed to be addressing the forum (not saying you were, but it did seem like it) like it was comprised of sad little kids with no real problems.
But yeah, nice rant!
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Tampon's Photo Tampon 25 Jun 2009

 rippa, on Jun 25 2009, 04:02 AM, said:

Second paragraph is awesome. It's my views, expressed in perfect words.
Two things though.
Scene kids, yes. The whole forum revolves around the fact (ok, not really) that Emo is music (the REAL Emo, not the mislabelled Post Hardcore stuff), and people are Scene.
Most of the regulars are NOT the scene kids you speak of. I got the vibe that you seemed to be addressing the forum (not saying you were, but it did seem like it) like it was comprised of sad little kids with no real problems.
But yeah, nice rant!

I realise that I was stereotyping a bit there, I should have said that I know that not all scene kids are like that.
I'm saying that I take issue with the ones that are.
As for the rest, live and let live amirite?
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Enemy's Photo Enemy 25 Jun 2009

Sweet. Tampon that dispenses walls of text. With you around, pussies can sound smarter.
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Curtis G!!'s Photo Curtis G!! 25 Jun 2009

 Enemy, on Jun 24 2009, 08:08 PM, said:

Sweet. Tampon that dispenses walls of text. With you around, pussies can sound smarter.

:P :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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rippa's Photo rippa 25 Jun 2009

 Tampon, on Jun 25 2009, 04:05 AM, said:

I realise that I was stereotyping a bit there, I should have said that I know that not all scene kids are like that.
I'm saying that I take issue with the ones that are.
As for the rest, live and let live amirite?
Agreed. And most of the regulars on this forum are not scene at all (some are/were). But I do agree with what you are saying.
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Musefreak's Photo Musefreak 25 Jun 2009

so basically the pussy hugger pretty much made a thread about what we all know anyway and have talked about over a long period of time. How original..... pfft
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Lisa95's Photo Lisa95 04 Jul 2009

 Tampon, on Jun 25 2009, 03:22 AM, said:

First of all, the victim thing. Far too many scene kids feel the need to have something to be depressed about. They feel as if they must 'hate their life' or come from a broken home, they wear their life problems, whether fictional or real, like some kind of status symbol. Often these kids (who are soooo depressed) are the perfect example of middle class kids who's parents 'don't understand them'. What they don’t understand is that people who have had and are dealing with real problems don’t just tell anyone. They don’t act depressed. If you are really having it hard, you will always try and keep up the appearance that you are fine. If you self-harm, you won’t wear short sleeved t-shirts and show off your scars, you will try your best to hide them. You will have excuses prepared to explain them away. You certainly will not openly go on about how depressed you are.

My second big problem with these scene kids is how they claim that they are original.. This is a source of great amusement for me, because I can’t tell them apart. Listening to the exact same bands as your friend and wearing the exact same clothes as your friend does not make you original. Someone who has true originality cannot be stereotyped. I think that a member of the emo culture might find themselves liking something like rap or jazz or country and western, but they‘d never mention it or even deny it because it doesn’t fit in with their image...That’s not originality. You may not be conforming to conventional style of dress, music etc.. But you are still conforming to an image. I think that you are all bopping about to Beyoncé when nobody is looking, anyway.
I agree with you 100%....... no sorry only 97%
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DyingTolerance's Photo DyingTolerance 04 Jul 2009

 Tampon, on Jun 24 2009, 10:22 PM, said:

Where I am from, there are just as many 'scene kids' or 'emos', or whatever you like to refer to yourself by, as there are 'chavs' or 'mauds' or what have you. I do hate scene kids, but only certain kinds. It's nothing to do with the way they dress, or their atrocious taste in music. If you think that wearing jeans that are 3 sizes too small for you is cool (It reduces sperm count, you know), then by all means do it, who am I to judge you? What I can't stand is the attitude that seems rampant in this subculture.

First of all, the victim thing. Far too many scene kids feel the need to have something to be depressed about. They feel as if they must 'hate their life' or come from a broken home, they wear their life problems, whether fictional or real, like some kind of status symbol. Often these kids (who are soooo depressed) are the perfect example of middle class kids who's parents 'don't understand them'. What they don’t understand is that people who have had and are dealing with real problems don’t just tell anyone. They don’t act depressed. If you are really having it hard, you will always try and keep up the appearance that you are fine. If you self-harm, you won’t wear short sleeved t-shirts and show off your scars, you will try your best to hide them. You will have excuses prepared to explain them away. You certainly will not openly go on about how depressed you are.

I’ll give you an example here, I went out drinking with my form class when I finished school last year. There are a lot of people in our form class who consider themselves emo. One girl in particular spent the entire night talking about how depressed she was, how hard her life was, how she self-harmed. When I questioned her (as I was genuinely concerned, SILLY ME) about why she was so down, she gave me shit like ‘my parents don’t get me’ and ‘they grounded me for staying out late’. These are not problems. It’s so cliché but.. The starving kids in Africa? They have problems. Your only problem is an attention seeking one.

My second big problem with these scene kids is how they claim that they are original.. This is a source of great amusement for me, because I can’t tell them apart. Listening to the exact same bands as your friend and wearing the exact same clothes as your friend does not make you original. Someone who has true originality cannot be stereotyped. I think that a member of the emo culture might find themselves liking something like rap or jazz or country and western, but they‘d never mention it or even deny it because it doesn’t fit in with their image...That’s not originality. You may not be conforming to conventional style of dress, music etc.. But you are still conforming to an image. I think that you are all bopping about to Beyoncé when nobody is looking, anyway.

Basically, I don’t care how you dress or what music you listen to. I dislike the fact you have to feel so sorry for yourself, and expect me to do the same, when your problems are actually quite trivial. And please, please for the love of god don’t for a second think that you are original. You really aren’t.

RANT OVER.
Does it really?! :rofl:

If you like it then you shoulda put a ring on it!
Don't be mad once you see that he want it!
Uh oh oh oh oh oh!!

Oh, I agree with you, btw.

 Enemy, on Jun 24 2009, 11:08 PM, said:

Sweet. Tampon that dispenses walls of text. With you around, pussies can sound smarter.

I lol'd
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Musefreak's Photo Musefreak 04 Jul 2009

stop...drop...and roll....
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Famous Last Words's Photo Famous Last Words 04 Jul 2009

Basically I agree with the points the rant made but I also agree with this;

 Musefreak, on Jun 25 2009, 04:41 PM, said:

so basically the pussy hugger pretty much made a thread about what we all know anyway and have talked about over a long period of time. How original..... pfft
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Kookie's Photo Kookie 05 Jul 2009

Nevermind :(.
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n3ak's Photo n3ak 06 Jul 2009

Well written, it just shows that if someone they don't know is affecting them so much ,it is them that has the problem.
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Musefreak's Photo Musefreak 07 Jul 2009

basically stop being scenekid fags
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Darkness's Photo Darkness 13 Jul 2009

Its all been done before... stop wetting your pants about how original something is or isnt. To OP: people will always be bitchy/attention seekng etc etc this is nothing new. Lesson learned? Dont go drinking with emos.

Proceed with your life.
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J-Love's Photo J-Love 27 May 2010

exactly.. i was hanging with my friend that was drunk before and all she did was cry and cry and tried to cut herself
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AntixD's Photo AntixD 27 May 2010

Ah.. Uh.. Crap brain fart...
So does that make me a scene fag when I don't do much of those things? I can't call myself original because I look like a jerker... (Which is oddly weird)
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Sunshine Bunny's Photo Sunshine Bunny 27 May 2010

holy fuck, old thread is old.
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AntixD's Photo AntixD 27 May 2010

Shit didn't see that...

Oh btw Thnks KING Sunshine. I guess I'm your property. xD
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